Comments on: AMD Counters Intel’s “Disingenuous” Server Claims Over Xeon 5500 (Nehalem) Performance, Price

By: Threads or Cores: Which Do You Need? « IT Expert Voice

Threads or Cores: Which Do You Need? « IT Expert Voice — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:55:40 +0000

[...] director of business development Pat Patla and server product manager John Fruehe told the blog, “Real men use cores … HyperThreading requires the core logic to maintain two pipelines: its normal pipeline and its [...]

By: Threads or Cores? « TechLedger

Threads or Cores? « TechLedger — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:21:46 +0000

By: [Xbit] AMD Bulldozer to Feature Simultaneous Multi-Threading - Page 3 - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:10:56 +0000

[...] A64 or A64x2. I was referring to an interview were an AMD exec tried downplay SMT in Nehalem. http://techpulse360.com/2009/04/06/a…ormance-price/ __________________ You are now breathing and blinking manually. [...]

By: fishrule

fishrule — Fri, 15 May 2009 03:36:53 +0000

I have used both AMD and Intel CPUs over the years, and do not really align myself with any companies. I did not own an INtel chip for about 5 years when the Athlon first came out, it was superior in every way imaginable to Pentium 3s and 4s.

But times have changed, and AMDs CPUs are severely lagging behind Intel’s. They don’t even have the value market anymore, so its sad so see them relying just on spin now since they have fallen so far behind Intel.

Open your eyes, this is beyond AMD vs Intel, the Core i7, Core2, and Xeon are all faster than their similarly priced AMD competitors. Sure its fun rooting for the underdog, but the underdog won’t get my money when their product sucks!

By: Real men use real cores | DHE • Daily Hardware Experiences • Dinox PC

Real men use real cores | DHE • Daily Hardware Experiences • Dinox PC — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:28:30 +0000

[...] sito Techpulse360 il 7 aprile ha pubblicato un’interessante intervista con il responsabile del reparto server [...]

By: kokojames

kokojames — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:02:34 +0000

for my desktop i will definitely buy an intel high end CPU as i need more power, pack in just single socket.

but for my server?

please take away those ghost CPU they are scary monsters!!!

By: Real Men Use Real Cores

Real Men Use Real Cores — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:57:06 +0000

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By: SamWise

SamWise — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:01:25 +0000

Fact Or FUD

“Real men use real cores. We’ve got real cores across our products. Hyperthreading is basically designed to act like a core except that it only gives 10 to 15 percent performance bump for real applications workload. That’s because hyperthreading requires the core logic to maintain 2 pipelines: its normal pipeline and its hyperthreaded pipeline. A management overhead that doesn’t give you a clear throughput.”

1) Hyperthreading gives tremendous boost in certain applications. 10-15% is towards the lower end of the scale.

2) All modern CPU architectures (except AMD) support multiple threads per core. Look at POWER from IBM, T1/T2/Rock from Sun Micro, Nehalem/Atom/Larrabee from Intel …

3) A proper implementation of SMT (what Intel calls Hyper-Threadin ) requires few additional resources. There is no such thing as a “Normal Pipeline” and a “Hyperthreaded pipeline” – all the functional units that form the bulk of the pipleline are unchanged, certain resources are shared, while certain other resources (like ISA registers) are duplicated.

By: SamWise

SamWise — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:47:14 +0000

Fact OR FUD

“Meaning that if you have an application that rely on high I/O and high memory throughput but doesn’t need a lot of compute power, like a Web server, a file server or network infrastructure – which are the real backbone of today’s data centers – you would have to buy the fastest Nehalem processor to get the fastest QPI! Instead, we offer the same HyperTransport speed on all of our Opteron chips.”

Except that the top HyperTransport speed is still lower than the lowest QPI speed. How’s that an advantage for AMD?

By: AmdFanATX

AmdFanATX — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:21:07 +0000

The way I see it to each his own.. Point being intel followers will never convert or say anything good about AMD, And AMD follower will never understand and disagree with the negativity from Intels followers. Argument about new architecture is getting very old as every single intel follower will say the same thing : Architecture this and architecture that and Intel rules the world blah blah….. Give it already its not always about design..