Forward Insights Challenges IDC “Hockey-Stick” SSD Sales Forecast

August 13, 2009
IDC hockey-stick forecast will put Flash memory maker at a financial risk

If IDC's bearish forecast materialises, then more Flash memory makers will have to declare bankruptcy

For a change, research firms agreed to disagree in forecasting the emergence of the solid-state disk (SSD) drive market.

During a panel hosted today at the Flash Memory Summit conference in Santa Clara, Calif., small technical research firm Forward Insights blasted its larger competitors (including IDC and Gartner) for their hockey-stick-like projections of the SSD market.

But first, to set the stage, IDC research manager in hard-disk drive (HDD) components and solid-state disk (SSD) drives Jeff Janukowicz said he expects the SSD market to reach $3 billion in sales next year, compare to $733 million in 2008 and less than a billion dollar this year.

IDC’s forecast will lead Flash memory makers to bankruptcy

A bearish growth that for Janukowicz will be mostly driven by enterprises adopting SSDs to improve the performance and lower the consumption of their data centres and by early-adopters in the PC market like gamers in the desktop segment or executives’ laptops.

Here’s a video excerpt of Janukowicz remarks:

Great outlook, right?

Well, not really according to Forward Insights President Greg Wong who thinks that this kind of hyper growth can not be done in a profitable way.

“If you take a look at the industry right now, profitability is a big challenge for everybody. So where will they get the money to invest and expand at the big growth rate that you see here [pointing at competitors' forecasts]… wether its through technology migration, plus 3-bits per cell, plus 20% CAPEX. That’s what you need to achieve those rates that [competitors] are predicting for next year. If you believe that it’s feasible, then I guess you’ll have to use their projections… And even if demand is quite strong next year, where will they get the cash?,” explains Wong.

A more prudent sentiment that was echoed during the conference by Sandisk CEO Eli Harari and Samsung vice president of memory marketing Jim Elliot.

In this video excerpt Wong explains his opposing arguments to the explosive growth of the Flash memory market:


Objective Analysis Expects Flash Memory Shortage, Higher Prices And SSD Industry To Consolidate

August 13, 2009
Objective Analysis principal Jim Handy sees a viable flash memory business for the near term

Objective Analysis believe SSDs will never reach prices of HDDs

In his presentation at the Flash Memory Summit today, Objective Analysis principal Jim Handy was quite optimistic on the future of the NAND flash memory market; for the near term.

Flash memory market business to remain viable until 2011

Handy pointed to current product shortages and price stability that will probably last until 2010-2011 due to growing demand combined with production and capital investments cutbacks; which is music to the ears for the 5 Flash memory makers left (Hynix, Micron, Samsung, Sandisk, Toshiba) in the market which are still recovering from their deep losses in 2008.

Looking at SSDs, Handy believes this market is ripe for consolidation; which will go from the 171+ Flash-based drive makers of today to just a handful. “Remember that there were 282 companies that used to make disk drives before the market consolidates to about 5 today,” recalls DISK/TREND founder Jim Porter.

Handy also expects SSDs to stay weak in the PC market due to higher costs compare to hard-disk drives and the upcoming launch of Braidwood, the codename for Intel’s update of its Turbo Memory technology, a flash-based caching technology that should improve disk access performance which is scheduled to be featured on mainstream motherboards in 2010.

To add insult to injury, Handy doesn’t see a price crossover between SSDs and HDDs… actually this may never happen.

Here’s a video excerpt of Handy’s presentation:


Larrabee Needs Solid-State Drives To Be Interesting, Intel says

August 13, 2009
Hard-disk drives will hold back the performance benefits of Intels upcoming high-end graphics chip Larrabee

Hard-disk drives will hold back the performance benefits of Intel's upcoming high-end graphics chip Larrabee

With the first generation of Intel’s high-end graphics chip – code named Larrabee – only a few months away from shipping, Intel is trying to set some expectations in regards of its performance.

Speaking at the Flash Memory Summit in Santa Clara, Calif., Intel’s desktop “performance guy” François Piednoël pointed that the performance and the user experience of a Larrabee-based PC will be “less interesting” with a hard-disk drive installed, highly recommending a solid-state drive (SDD) instead.

Hard-disk drives are what is holding PC performance back

Luckily, it so happened that the Santa Clara, Calif., chipmaker had recently shipped its next-generation 80GB SSD for about $220. At this price, Piednoël argues, consumers will begin to pay attention on this new category of devices.

“On a lot of benchmarks you will get more performance benefits to put an SSD into a laptop than having a discrete graphics card… This accelerate dramatically the user experience.”

A statement that I largely agree with having experienced a jump of performance after I installed a Kingston’s SSD on a MacBook used for video editing. The jump in performance was immediately noticeable and would have only been possible if I had upgraded the processor and/or the Nvidia discrete graphics.

With that in mind, Intel’s heavy investment in SSD technologies makes a lot more sense. “The CPU and the SSD are intimately linked. The faster the SSD is, the more you need processing power, and vice-versa.” CQFD.

Follows 2 video excerpts of Piednoël’s presentation at the Flash Memory Summit:

And why Intel is so interested in SSDs:


Verbatim: Mobile Phones Drive Flash Memory Sales

August 12, 2009
Verbatim continues its push in Flash memory with this tiny and tough USB drive

Verbatim continues its push in Flash memory with this tiny and tough USB drive

You’d be surprised what an old storage company like Verbatim – which started by selling data cassettes 40-years ago – can bring to the rapidly changing flash memory market.

For Mark Rogers, the company’s marketing manager for its 6-year old Flash business, it’s all about:

  1. Lifetime warranty on all Flash products (both cards and USB drives); replacing any faulty devices, no questions ask. Kingston also offers a lifetime warranty on its Flash memory cards, but only 5-years for its USB drives; for Sandisk its 2-years and just 1-year for PNY;
  2. A standard password protection feature (for Windows only, not Macs) available on most of Verbatim drives;
  3. Enough performance to speed up Windows, thanks to the USB keys “ReadyBoost” compatibility;

And in conjunction with this week Flash Memory Summit in Santa Clara, Calif., Verbatim introduced new USB keys – the TUFF-’N'-TINY line – that are among the smallest and sturdiest in the market.

Mobile phones are main driver of Flash memory cards sales

However, despite being the fourth top selling brand of USB flash drives in the U.S., Verbatim is yet to ship a solid-state drive (SSD) that would compete with the likes of Intel/Kingston, STEC, etc.

“But we’re in the process of launching an ExpressCard SSD [announced at the Consumer Electronics Show last January and already shipping in Europe] which is based on a removable form-factor. Verbatim is in the removable media business and we chose to start our entry in SSD in that manner ,” said Rogers.

More on our exclusive interview with Verbatim in the video below:


Analyst: Solid State Drives Will Never Match Hard Disks In Price And Capacity

March 18, 2009

Analyst Jim Handy does not expect prices for SSDs to match HDDs

Last week, Brian Beard, a Samsung executive, went out and predicted that solid state drives (SSD) will soon be as cheap if not even cheaper than hard disk drives.

For now, it looks like a far out shot as currently a 256GB SSD – the highest capacity commercially available – costs around $489 for the Super Talent SSD, versus less than $80 for the equivalent disk drive. That’s 6 times less!

For Jim Handy, Objective Analysis’ analyst covering the Flash industry, the price parity between SSDs and HDDs sounds indeed like a pipe dream.

“Samsung does make both HDDs and SSDs, so these comments should be balanced, but I suspect the HDD side is regretting Brian Beard’s comments right now [Beard is in the SSD group],” said Handy.

However, Beard has a point. If the 60 per cent annual megabyte price decline of NAND continues – versus 40 to 45 per cent for HDDs – it’s just a matter of a few years before the dollar-per-gigabyte price parity is reached.

The problem is that the 60 per cent per year price reduction is not sustainable by cost reductions alone, according to SanDisk’s CEO, Eli Harari.

So what to believe? Here’s what Jim Handy had to say on the issue raised by Beard.

Price parity will never happen as long as HDD prices keep pace with SSD’s

If you ask when an SSD will cost the same as an HDD, well, that has always been the case, as long as the SSD is significantly smaller than an HDD.  If you want to know when an SSD will match the price AND the capacity of an HDD, that is unlikely to occur for at least for another decade, if ever.  HDD price per gigabyte drops at a rate that is between 40 to 50 per cent per year. So it’s keeping pace with SSDs and it’s projected to continue to do that over the long term.

NAND Flash is selling below cost, but it’s bouncing back

Something that many people don’t seem to realize is that manufacturing cost really does limit the speed at which prices can fall.  When the market moves from profitability to losses (during the transition from an undersupply to an oversupply) prices drop very quickly to absorb all the margins.

During this time a 60 per cent price drop is possible – even normal.  Once prices have reached manufacturing costs the fall will slow to match the speed at which costs decline.  For NAND that rate is 40 per cent per year.  We are actually in a market today where NAND has sold below cost, but it’s bouncing back up to cost.

Micron might file an anti-dumping suit against Asian rivals

It is very likely that Micron, in a year or two, will file an anti-dumping complaint against other NAND makers for the period during which NAND was selling for below $2.00/GB, since most manufacturers’ cost is about $2.00 today. The treat of such lawsuits forces NAND (or DRAM) makers to keep their prices above costs.

NAND Flash pricing is very predictable

NAND pricing is actually pretty predictable to anyone who has lived through a number of down cycles in commodity memory markets and has come to understand the very predictable path this pricing follows.


Imation Ships Kit To Migrate PCs To Solid State Drives (video)

January 13, 2009

 

Imation kit makes it easy to upgrade disk drives to SSDs

Imation kit makes it easy to upgrade traditional disk drives systems to SSDs

2009 is the year that solid state drives (SSDs) go mainstream.

Storage company Imation announced at the Consumer Electronics Show last week a consumer line of SSD drives (the M-class) available in 2.5-inch and 3.5- inch configurations, and with capacities ranging from 32GB to 128GB. Prices start at $180.

But more importantly is the availability of an upgrade kit that makes it easy to migrate the operating system, applications and data from an existing hard disk drive to the new Imation SSD.

For Imation director Bill Simser, SSDs allow for faster boot times, quick loading of applications in memory and writing data on the drive. 

Below is a video excerpt of Simser talking about the latest Imation SSD consumer products:


ASUS Touts ARM-based Netbooks, To Launch Android SmartPhone Next Month

January 7, 2009
asus-jonney-shih-with-jb

ASUS Chairman Jonney Shih with TechPulse 360 editor, Jean-Baptiste Su

At the ASUS press conference last night at CES, Chairman Jonney Shih confirmed to TechPulse 360 the release of the company’s upcoming Android smartphone – the eeePhone – next month, probably at the GSM World Congress show in Barcelona.

“It will be before Cebit,” added Shih.

ASUS is also looking at developing an ARM-based netbook that will enable the Taiwanese company to reach even lower price point than the current Atom-based netbooks.

When asked about the netbook trademark owned by UK-based Psion, Shih countered that “netbook” is now part of the common lingua franca. I guess he didn’t receive Psion’ lawyers papers :)

Although ASUS is an Android developer, Shih remains skeptical of using Google’s mobile operating system on a netbook/notebook.

Finally, the Taiwanese company points to its fairly good relationship with Intel that lets the PC maker quite free to use Intel’s Atom processor with competing graphics chips from Nvidia or ATI. “It’s been over 10 years that we told Intel about their graphics problem. That’s why we’re excited to work with them on Larabee [Intel's upcoming high-end graphics chip],” adds Shih.

ASUS’ N10 netbook integrates Intel’s Atom and the Nvidia GeForce 9300M graphics chip. On the higher-end of the spectrum, ASUS unveiled at the press conference a $1,649 S121 netbook running Windows 7 and with a 512 GB solid state drive.

Follows a video with some comments Shih made during the CES press conference:


First Toshiba 512GB Solid State Drive Is Too Slow And Expensive, analyst says

December 19, 2008
At $600, Toshiba's 512GB SSD will still be 10 times the price of an equivalent disk drive

At $600, Toshiba's 512GB SSD will still be about 6 times the price of an equivalent disk drive, when it ships in 2010!

In announcing this week a 512GB solid state drive, Toshiba is showing some marketing prowess.

First, because it’s twice the capacity of its fierce Korean competitor Samsung’s best drive. Then, it’s hitting the highest capacity point of any current 2.5-inch magnetic disk drive. And more importantly – and conveniently forgotten by the media – is that the Toshiba drive will not be widely available before the second quarter of next year, at the earliest.

That is, if the Japanese maker doesn’t decide to cut even further its production of Flash memory.

By then, Samsung and others will certainly have also announced their own higher capacity drives; which could happen as early as next month at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

Slow speed and high price are still keeping SSDs off consumer laptops!

The Toshiba 512GB drive has slightly better performance than the current 256GB drive from Samsung with
read/write speeds of 240 MBps/200 MBps versus 220 MBps/200 MBps.

But even if those numbers appear better “in theory” than current notebook drives, they’re still not faster in real life!

“Write speed is the slow spec in an SSD, and sequential writes tend to be a lot faster than small random writes. Unfortunately, most operating systems perform a whole lot of small random writes,” explains Jim Handy, analyst at Objective Analysis. “Lately companies – like Intel and Micron – have been adding DRAM to their SSDs to try to fix this.”

Although Toshiba did not divulge the price for its 512GB SSD, Jim Handy had done the math for us and estimates that it would cost around $600 to a PC manufacturer, while the 256GB version would be about half that.

“But double those numbers for retail. These things are still very expensive!” adds Handy.


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